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21 Feb 2018 19:44:29
Not going to go over the Groves Eubank fight because it's been done and it's obvious what happened and what needs to happen.
So the first Bellew vs Haye presser was today, I'm just going to come out and say it.
If David Haye is 15stone when he fights Tony Bellew, Bellew is getting wiped out. He looks beyond focused. He ignored all of the mind games Bellew was playing and in return actually had Bellew rattled and shouting a few times because he wasn't getting his own way. Haye looks focused, he's not being arrogant this time and I believe if his weight drops then he will destroy Tony Bellew. We all know he's a much better fighter, but if he's in the right place mentally, that's a scary David Haye.
And tbh I hope Haye does win, I'm not into the whole tribalism thing, I don't usually want any fighters to win, I just wanna enjoy the fights. But I want Haye to win simply because Bellew has become so big headed after the first fight, he's got all these ridiculous statements that he's said and he's a massive hypocrite. Saying he'll fight Tyson Fury but not AJ or Wilder because they are too big. Tyson Fury is bigger than both men in terms of height and weight. He won't fight AJ because it's his mate and he won't fight Wilder because there isn't much money in it and Wilder would knock him out COLD inside 1 round.
Haye said Bellew humbled him in the first fight.
Well now it's Bellew's turn to be humbled, he is coming across as the same arrogant loud mouthed weirdo that Haye was. Maybe the Stevenson KO didn't register enough with him.
Yes Bellew has done very well with limited ability and he's made himself a star in the UK but that don't exclude him from criticism.
{Ed025's Note - i think haye will win as well swan, its all bravado with tony and it sells tickets so dont worry about it mate..
1.) 21 Feb 2018 20:19:47
I don’t think it is, I think it was to get the Haye fight because it’s a massive payday. But he looks like a very emotional character, similar to Dillian Whyte.
{Ed025's Note - he is emotional swan but that spurs him on and gets him up for the battle, outside the ring hes a very nice guy mate..
2.) 22 Feb 2018 09:55:19
David Haye is a better fighter? Debatable . And bringing Adonis Stevenson into the mix is crazy. He’s on a different level. The fact is Tony has never said Haye is not great but tony knows as you have pointed out that the fact is David Haye is so unpredictable that you can’t put serious money on him. It wouldn’t surprise me if it went the same again. I want tony to win. If your getting that bellew is big headed then the banter is going over your head. He even said in the presser that he will keep dangling his rod. And he is winding up and getting to Haye but Haye really can’t make himself look daft again. or can he.
3.) 22 Feb 2018 22:44:45
A fit Haye beats Bellew. The issue is that we may not get a fit Haye.
If he comes in light, his speed and power should handle Bellew within 8 rounds.
4.) 23 Feb 2018 21:58:30
Bellew to beat Haye again for me. I think Bellew can outbox him, maybe even take him out late on.
Most likely scenario is that there is a gust of wind as Haye is walking out and his arms fall off.
06 Feb 2018 11:49:36
So Joseph Parker has called Joshua mentally fragile.
Joshua went to Azerbaijan and fought the worlds best amateurs when he was basically a novice and only came second by one point to an Azerbaijani.
He fought Klitschko in his 19th fight which is ridiculous no matter what way people look at it. He came up off the floor and stopped Klitschko.
He won a world title in his 16th professional fight and afterwards wasn't that bothered.
He is having another unification fight in less than a year. Mentally fragile? Definitely not. He has the same mentality as Errol Spence for me and let me tell you why.
Errol Spence was 2-0 when he walked into the Mayweather gym, beat up Broner and put it on Floyd. He didn't give a damn who Floyd was, he went in there to fight. It reached the point that Floyd kicked him out of the gym, Spence had no respect for who Floyd was. That's an iron mentality.
Spence beat Brook in Brook's back yard and wasn't that bothered by the win. He was like "this is just the first step". Compare that to when Brook won it, compare that to when Thurman beat Garcia. Both of them were over the moon and joyous as hell. Spence sort of shook it off as if it didn't mean much. That's the perfect mentality, that's what separates the special fighters from the great fighters. Him and Joshua have the exact same mindset and that's why they will go to the top. Both have a look of destiny about them.
Tyson Fury is similar, when he was 17-0 or something like that he did an interview where someone asked him about sparring Wladimir Klitschko. The interviewer said "were you impressed by Wladimir" and Fury said "not really, I just saw a man with a pair of boxing gloves on". I remember the criticism he got for that with people saying he lacked respect.
It was this lack of respect that enabled him to go to Germany and school Klitschko.
Compare that with a David Price, a man with very little self confidence, a man who has the rabbit in the headlights look all the time, a man who feels sorry for himself all the time. A man who's head drops the minute he faces adversity. The likes of Peter Quillin and Victor Ortiz are the same.
It's the difference mentally that sets certain fighters apart from the rest. I believe Spence and Joshua will go to the very top. Yes they have ability, but they aren't the best in their division at everything. There are faster guys at 147 and HW than Spence and Joshua. Guys who hit harder, guys who have better technical skills. But their mentality is what I believe will drag them though adversity and see them reach the top and make the most out of their ability.
1.) 15 Feb 2018 00:22:39
Spot on and add to that he is always looking to learn.
For me the only one who can beat him is a fully fit and focused Tyson Fury as I think is is so underrated by people but I would still give AJ the advantage as I am not sure Fury is going to come back 100%.
03 Feb 2018 23:22:24
So Gassiev beats Dorticos and will fight Usyk in the final. Fair play to Dorticos, showed great heart going for the KO in round 12.
Well done to the WBA for allowing their belt to be on the line, an undisputed Cruserweight world champion soon, amazing.
Think Usyk will pick Gassiev apart, Gassiev isn't as good of a boxer as Briedis. Will be interesting either way.
Haven't seen Okolie vs Chamberlain, was embarrassing I heard.
1.) 04 Feb 2018 15:47:19
Okolie vs Chamberlain was ok, but it pretty much became a wrestling match from round 2 to round 9. Chamberlain looked lost at times and had no idea how to deal with Okolie's physical presence.
08 Jan 2018 11:54:13
So it looks like AJ vs Parke is done, I fancy Joshua on points, sill feel Wilder will KO him though when they do meet.
1.) 10 Jan 2018 01:10:30
Deontay Windmill gets flat lined vs Joshua, or any genuine contender for that matter. The guy has webbed feet and only wants 1 actual fight so he can retire.
2.) 10 Jan 2018 20:42:59
Windmill Wilder is all fun and games until he hits you with that right hand, then it’s not funny no more, find the people underestimating him laughable, gets flatlined by any genuine contender but destroyed Stiverne twice, KO’d Molina and is about to fight King Kong and he will beat Ortiz.
3.) 11 Jan 2018 07:01:10
Has it been confirmed? I heard them saying something about March/ April but never heard any confirmation. Maybe Ortiz has suddenly aged and Wilder beats him, but I don't think so personally.
And considering Wilder fought Stiverne twice, once to win the title and a rematch as a defense even though the first fight was a white wash, just goes to show his mentality. And don't give me that mandatory rubbish. Stiverne hadn't fought in 2 years and maintained his mandatory status - it's an absolute joke!
Wilder looks good against people like Stiverne, but let's not forget he looked absolutely garbage against Szpilka, Washington and Molina, the latter of which made Wilder do the funky chicken dance, while the other two were arguably beating him before he fired up his propellers.
4.) 11 Jan 2018 11:27:44
It’s not Wilder’s fault Stiverne maintained his mandatory status, he wanted to fight Ortiz instead but Ortiz failed a test. Wilder agreed to go to Russia to fight Povetkin again until Povetkin failed a test and has looked awful since then. Nothing wrong with his mentality.
Propellers or not he’s icing people and it don’t matter that he’s losing fights if he knocks them out, unless AJ has some granite chin which he don’t and has suddenly gained a world class defence, he’s going to get caught. He windmills when he gets people hurt but let’s not act like he’s the only one to ever do it, there is plenty of clips of George Foreman windmilling, people need to accept Wilder has serious knockout power and underrated boxing ability. If he had no skill he wouldn’t be landing that right hand every fight, he’s better on the backfoot than AJ, he’s got faster feet than AJ and better stamina, I’m not saying it’s a foregone conclusion. I won’t be shocked if AJ beats him but Wilder needs to start getting some credit, when he beats Ortiz they will say “well Ortiz is oldâ€, then if he beats Miller or Whyte they will go “well they were terrible anywayâ€. Wilder is a problem at Heavyweight and if he just had power and nothing else then well it’s amazing David Price and Robert Helenius aren’t world champions too.
5.) 11 Jan 2018 20:06:11
Price and Helenius aren't being managed by Al Haymon though, are they?
6.) 12 Jan 2018 09:23:08
I think AJ beats Parker by KO. AJ can box, and he can fight also. I think what showed me his mindset was when he said, "at the end of the day, it's just 2 persons beating each other". We saw that against Wladimir, when he found it difficult, he simply out-hustled Klitschko.
I think he'll knock out Parker between the 4th and 10th round.
As for Wilder, it depends on the Wilder we see. If he boxes like the first Stiverne fight, he can stick and move and beat AJ by decision or late KO.
What I've noticed about AJ though is that when he gets to the mid-rounds, he goes out to "fight" and tries to take his opponent out. If Wilder can get past that barrage, Wilder wins.
7.) 12 Jan 2018 10:41:24
It doesn’t matter who’s managing them because Price and Helenius were losing to people Wilder would’ve beat. Helenius was knocked out by Duhaupas who Wilder smacked around the ring for 11 rounds.
I expect Parker to go the distance personally, he’s got a very good chin, don’t think I’ve ever even seen him stunned and Ruiz Jr can bang. If Joshua struggled to stop Takem (still shouldn’t have been stopped) he’s going to struggle to stop someone with better skills who is bigger.
24 Mar 2017 12:29:10
Predictions for Brook vs Spence everyone?
Think Spence stops him
1.) 24 Mar 2017 17:20:51
If Brooks weight loss is all smooth and he's not looking ill, then I think it'll be a good fight for 12 rounds. If it's not like that, then it'll be a good fight for 4/5 rounds.
2.) 26 Mar 2017 15:39:17
That's about it for me as wel hsf. I actually liked what I saw against glovkin but he didn't have the natural weight to bother him with his punches or take a dig from a natural at that weight let alone someone who can dig like ggg. I like the look of spence but he hasn't yet faced an opponent of Kelly calibre. It will be a good fight I think
17 Apr 2018 13:37:59
If Joshua unifies with Wilder next then he won’t need to fight Povetkin.
But he won’t fight Wilder next, he’ll be fighting Jarrell Miller in Brooklyn and the WBA will let him.
17 Apr 2018 13:36:29
Khan is always exciting to watch, he’s like David Price, none stop entertainment.
28 Mar 2018 18:04:41
Hsf, I watched the Parker vs Ruiz fight and think a majority decision is a bit mad, I had it 116-112 to Parker and find it hard to score it any differently but Ruiz can fight. It was a former sparring partner of both men I believe who said Ruiz hits much harder than Parker, Ruiz has ridiculous hand speed for a man that fat.
I’m not going to comment on the physique part of it because everyone has different genetics and not everyone can come in looking like Anthony Joshua.
What I will say is I don’t get why people think the HW division of today is crap.
Joshua
Wilder
Fury
Parker
Fury
Whyte
Miller
Breazeale
Ruiz
Ortiz
Povetkin
Takam
Any of those fighters fighting each other is a good fight, I remember hearing from my dad that during the 90s loads of people were calling the HW division terrible and hoping for Mike Tyson to come back and rescue the division. It wasn’t until that era was over that people realised that it was a golden age of HW boxing. I’m not saying this is a golden age but I do believe it is very underrated and all the major fighters will swap losses. I don’t see Wilder, Joshua or Fury retiring without a loss. Too many different styles.
27 Mar 2018 16:30:27
I don’t think beating Lucas Browne changes much in terms of him beating or troubling Wilder, styles and size are nothing alike.
27 Mar 2018 16:29:46
I said he had the heart to go 12, the man got knocked out cold and Whyte outclassed him, it happens.