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25 Jun 2020 13:01:24
Whyte vs Povetkin 15th or 22nd of August.

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27 Jun 2020 07:23:10
I've got a feeling Whyte is going to try and make a statement. He's the first high profile heavyweight back in action, he's fighting a top 10 fighter and he's quite an angry lad at the minute.

Plus there is the added fact that Povetkins punch resistence has been deteriorating since the Price fight and he's getting on abit at 41/ 42.

 

 

19 Jun 2020 16:46:30
Jarrell Miller to fight on July 9th. That will be a sad day for boxing.

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20 Jun 2020 11:08:10
A sad day indeed. The guy should be banned for life from all combat sports.
Disgusting cheater, who even had the audacity to slap a reporter's drink out of his hand and demanded respect, after said reporter questioned his drug use.

21 Jun 2020 10:50:07
Totally agree mate lifetime ban although I don't even think that would stop them from cheating. didn't work in cycling, I just think some people r just cheaters.

21 Jun 2020 18:40:19
Yeah, I think it was Lance Armstrong who said that in his final race, when you look back at the final standings you have to go down to like 28th place to find a drug free racer. That is insane!

At least cheating won't kill your opponent when it comes to PED's in Cycling, wish I could say the same for Boxing.

21 Jun 2020 23:47:24
"At least cheating won't kill your opponent when it comes to PED's in Cycling, wish I could say the same for Boxing. "

I couldn't agree more more. That's the difference.

23 Jun 2020 13:59:05
Exactly mate.

I think fighters that get caught with PED's in excess like Miller did, where it's conclusive that he was doing it for performance gain. Should be tried in court for attempted murder.

24 Jun 2020 10:45:10
I totally agree mate but there is nothing to stop these cheats. The punishment is worth the risk. The cycling authorities hand out two year ban for using PEDs in boxing Miller just got banned for 6months and when he came back he was rewarded with a bumper new deal and will prob be fast tracked to a world title shot.
Cheating will also happen in sport but if the punishment match the crime then maybe some would think twice.
Miller is a disgrace, that guy has some brass neck on him and tbh so does Bob Arum signing him. I would put money on it that Miller is still cheating I'm some capacity mate. The man is obese walking about there like he's a big man. Makes a complete mockery of the sport.

24 Jun 2020 19:27:50
I know right? A 300lbs monster that throws 100 punches a round. I'm not going to watch his fight, but I will definitely keep an eye in the punch stats when it's over.

He threw something like 1000 punches in 12 rounds against duhaupus and didn't look out of breath once. I know there are some genetic freaks out there, but fml.

25 Jun 2020 13:00:45
The guy can't stop lying mate. Even today he's still denying he knew what he was taking eventhough he admitted it when he was caught. He didn't impress me when he was on the gear so don't hold high Hope's for him as a clean fighter.

18 Jun 2020 22:52:57
Reading sugar Ray's autobiography atm ' The Big Fight'. Good read, really goes in deep on his drugs use. Ed001, no pressure. Just asking, r u enjoying the research for your article and how u getting on with it mate?

{Ed001's Note - I was really enjoying it, but each time I look at him there is new stories coming out. That starts to get frustrating when you think you are ready to start writing and have to keep putting it on hold while you read through new stuff and have to rethink what you had planned over and over again!! He is a very interesting guy and it really did shock me that he was more than just a pretty boy with lightning quick hands. I never knew much besides the image before the research. I had chosen to do him next as I thought it would be fairly simple and quick to do. I was so wrong.}

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19 Jun 2020 11:21:26
Tbh ed I wasnt a massive fan of him personally b4 I started reading his book but tbf its changed my outlook on him. He is extremely honest man and didn't get it easy as some might suggest. Some shocking stories about him ed being abused as a teenager by his boxing coach, was hard to read at times.
That would be really annoying ed if u wrote your article then realised u left out couple of great stories about him. Has that ever happened to u b4?

{Ed001's Note - yes, quite a few times, which is why I am so much more thorough now. I found so many more things about Tyson and Cruyff after writing their articles that I wish I had included. I just have to find excuses to put those stories into articles.}

19 Jun 2020 11:56:36
U could write a various stories article or amusing stories from various sports and just put them all in there would be good read I think. Anyway, best of luck with the article mate looking forward to reading it.

{Ed001's Note - yeah, I used to do them before, which led to people asking for the more in-depth articles on those mentioned. No reason why I couldn't put a few of those together again as well. Good thinking Roro!}

19 Jun 2020 15:49:45
Nps ed mate I'm always happy to suggest work for other people to do lol.

{Ed001's Note - obviously you are a very kind person then.}

19 Jun 2020 16:11:20
I try ed mate. Lol.

{Ed001's Note - yes, you have often been described as trying I can assure you! ;-)

19 Jun 2020 16:23:23
God loves a trier ed mate. Lol.

{Ed001's Note - you must be adored then.]

19 Jun 2020 17:02:56
And I have the luck of the Irish, I'm very privileged ed. Lol.

{Ed001's Note - considering that they are a nation that was conquered by the Danes and then the English, followed by the way they were treated up until very recently, I have often wondered how lucky that is....}

19 Jun 2020 17:32:13
Yeah but at least its sunny 3 days a year ed. can't complain there mate. Lol.

{Ed001's Note - ah yes, famous for its sunshine is Ireland, I forgot about that! I remember my parents took me on a holiday there as a kid, worst 6 months of my life. Actually I think it was only a week, it just felt like 6 months as it never stopped raining! Never been so bored in my life. Still it was good practice for this lockdown, except in those days there was no internet, game consoles, smartphones or anything like that to do.}

19 Jun 2020 17:55:02
U obviously weren't here the week of the year were its sunny 3 days ed. Did u not go to the field? Well it's not really a field just has less rocks in it than the others. ๐Ÿ˜‰.

{Ed001's Note - damn we missed that. We saw a horse get punched by some drunk Germans and that was about as exciting as it got.}

19 Jun 2020 18:31:46
Now that's something u don't see every day ed. Fitting for the boxing page as Roberto Duran once knocked a horse out.

{Ed001's Note - you probably do see that in Ireland a lot, I have seen that documentary about youngsters growing up in the country, Young Offenders. The question is, which are you - Connor or Jock?}

19 Jun 2020 18:42:03
Lol I'm a city boy ed. Them boys in Co Cork r in a field of their own mate. Good show that, funny.

{Ed001's Note - it must be a big country as I went to Irish Village here in Dubai and their website boasted that all the staff came from Ireland. I had never realised that Ireland stretched as far as the Philippines until that day! Either their website is in serious need of updating or someone needs to explain that you no longer count as Irish for having once sat near someone drinking Guinness now Jack Charlton is no longer the manager.....}

19 Jun 2020 18:52:44
Do u not know ed, to qualify for the Irish team all u got to do is fly over Ireland. We have recently branched out to other sports. Had a good cricketer called Eoin Morgan, he must have retired but cause havnt seen him playing these days much. Lol.

{Ed001's Note - I know that as I qualify as Irish these days, I just try to keep that quiet....}

19 Jun 2020 18:53:42
U in Dubai ed? Will u try and get tickets to any fights over there?

{Ed001's Note - I can't afford to mate. I am only here because I can't afford flights home at the moment. Luckily the govt have made eviction illegal for the moment.}

19 Jun 2020 19:13:04
Could be worse mate u could be back in Ireland freezing and soaking lol. Only joking, it's a very difficult time atm mate keep the head up and don't mean this to sound abit cheeky mate but u help a lot of people on these pages I'm sure more than enough would be willing to help u out mate.

{Ed001's Note - everyone is in a similar boat at the moment mate, it will work out in the end I am sure. I have no loans or anything so there are a lot of people worse off than I am. Hopefully things will pick up soon. But then I might well have the luck of the Irish, which would explain why this year has been wetter than normal as well....}

19 Jun 2020 19:23:53
Lol I go to Scotland for my summer holidays ed. Haha. That term luck of the Irish do u know where that originated from? I was reading its about the gold mines in America?

{Ed001's Note - I had no idea where it came from to be honest. Is that because it was felt they were finding the best nuggets when panning for them?}

19 Jun 2020 19:37:46
So the story goes mate. Something to do with the gold rush and a lot of Irish people prospered in that apparently mate.

{Ed001's Note - yeah I just been reading up and it does seem to be derogatory though, which makes sense as the Irish were not exactly highly thought of. I can still remember in my lifetime seeing signs outside B&B windows in England that read 'No Blacks Or Irish'. Thankfully you no longer see those any more.}

19 Jun 2020 20:04:10
Ed I know that the people of liverpool have been labelled with untrue and nasty things in the past. Do u think that might have stemmed from the Irish connection? It's often something I have thought about.

{Ed001's Note - no, it stemmed from Thatcher and her battle with the city. That is why it became a stereotype, she had media backing and used it to turn attention away from why the city stood against her and get people on her side.}

19 Jun 2020 20:14:04
Shes not loved over here aswel mate. Cheers ed. Enjoyed talking to u today mate.

{Ed001's Note - you too mate, take care and stay lucky!}

19 Jun 2020 20:25:39
Cheers u too mate โ˜˜.

16 Jun 2020 18:25:40
Dont watch UFC but I am impressed with how they r already back up and running and making big fights. I know its easier for them as they r all under one promotion team but boxing needs to get its act together here. Get Whyte vs Povetkin announced asap imo.

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16 Jun 2020 19:10:39
They have done well, but the lack of a crowd is awful, same with Boxing.

17 Jun 2020 11:48:13
I have only watched the Tony Ferguson fight from the ufc and I really enjoyed it. The matchups need to be competitive and entertaining. I've watched plenty of fights with fans and its bored the arse off me. At the moment no1 wants to fight with no crowd because they will get less money. The ufc r putting on title fights while boxing is struggling to put on a british level fight, no wonder the UFC is becoming more popular. Getting abit late in the summer for Whyte vs Povetkin to be announced.

21 Jun 2020 18:41:21
Oh yeah, not trying to put the UFC down or anything, just saying having no crowd (for any sporting event) is awful lol.

 

 

15 Jun 2020 19:36:54
Who wins Wladimir Klitschko vs Vitali Klitschko?

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16 Jun 2020 19:09:54
I think Wlad would win on points, but gets dropped at least once on his way to victory.

Vitali was even more robotic than Wladimir, but had a much stronger chin and arguably more power.

15 Jun 2020 14:45:22
The WBC have confirmed that Whyte is taking legal action against them, over the date of his mandatory title fight.

About time.

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15 Jun 2020 19:48:48
Need ed002 for that one mate.

15 Jun 2020 19:35:27
Seen that mate. If ed002 is about, can the force majeure clause be used in boxing?

{Ed002's Note - It depends what events the clause, if it exists, discusses.}

15 Jun 2020 20:29:55
What about a virus and lost of revenue ed002? Would that count?

{Ed002's Note - I rather doubt such an event is descibed.}

15 Jun 2020 20:44:43
Cheers ed002. R u a boxing fan yourself mate? Any favourite fighters?

{Ed002's Note - I canโ€™t stand it.}

15 Jun 2020 21:27:42
UFC man? Lol.

12 Jun 2020 13:16:52
What did yous think of the news from Fury and Joshua? I think Frank Warren is correct there's no new news here, it's two people saying if we fight want a rematch clause and want 50/ 50 split and they agreeing, that's it. Still a lot to sort out.

Over here a lot of the media attention has been on Daniel Kinahan, front page news in some of the newspapers. Imo that will be a major obstacle especially if the media stay with it. Was mentioned in the Irish Parliament yesterday.

I also think this means the end of Whytes title shot. Hearn can say Fury has a mandatory against Whyte but if Fury and Joshua both win around November December time, then everyone Hearn included will be shouting for the unification fight.

Whyte will have to step aside or might be made WBC champ and fury super champ u know what the WBC is like. Also think that Hearn broke the news to take some of the heat away from Joshua's racist speech the other day.

Backfired on AJ, reading a scripted speech then saying not my words but some of them were but not all of them lol. Stick to the boxing AJ mate.

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12 Jun 2020 14:06:43
I agree it's a mess right now.

This is the second time Joshua has been caught saying racially motivated things (remember his black superiority DM's on instagram? ) . Plus it didn't help that he was dressed up like a member of the black Panthers.

I've heard talk of Fury being made franchise champion if he's to fight AJ. Which i assume the WBC title will be made vacant and contested between Whyte (if he beats Povetkin) and either Wilder or Ortiz, probably Wilder.

12 Jun 2020 16:33:52
Eddie Hearn has said the following regarding Dillian Whyte's mandatory position.



From our point of view, Dillian Whyte is mandatory, and that mandatory is supposed to land before the end of February 2021," Hearn told Sky Sports News.

"We want Dillian Whyte to fight Tyson Fury as soon as possible, and if Wilder is not available for any reason then Dillian should step in and take that.

"I saw Bob Arum's comments about Tyson Fury becoming the 'Franchise' champion. We'd much rather that this was not for a 'Franchise' belt, this was for a WBC world title, and we want Dillian Whyte to get his shot at the world title.

"The point of Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua and the teams agreeing to the structure of that deal - that deal can happen, that first fight can happen at the end of next summer. It will be 2021, but there is a big period of time where Dillian Whyte should be getting his shot at the world title and that's important to us.
Skysports. com
So in theory, he's saying that the agreement for Fury vs Joshua is to take place in the summer of 2021, which means that Fury has ample time to fight Wilder and Whyte before he fights Joshua.

It looks like Hearn thinks Fury will fight Wilder before the years end (probably September/ October), then he'll fight Whyte in February or March then Joshua in July/ August.

12 Jun 2020 22:35:25
Wishful thinking mate. The main word Hearn said there is 'supposed'.
Boxing created this problem themselves by introducing so many different governing bodies. The franchise champion they have introduced just adds to that imo mate.

13 Jun 2020 11:38:32
No1 is really intrested in the Whyte fight mate even Hearn. I'm hearing possibly late Dec for Fury vs Wilder 3. If he wins and Joshua beats Pulev then public demand will be so strong that they will have to make the Fury vs AJ fight. Fury not fighting 3 times in one year.
Imo he will fight Wilder Dec time then fight AJ May time and the rematch about Dec time again. If Fury wins then I think he just walks away from the sport. I also think if Joshua loses he also walks away. Ultimately Whyte should have took the shot he was offered last year. Wouldn't be stuck in limbo now.

15 Jun 2020 14:55:45
I would agree with you on Fury not fighting 3 times in a year, but that was before the postponed fights and the virus. Fury probably had a plan outlined and I'd imagine, both he and the networks will want to get out as much as possible to generate lost income.

Also with Whyte now taking the WBC to court, I think Fury may be forced to fight 3 times.

15 Jun 2020 19:34:31
Cant see Fury being forced into anything mate. Nothing signed with AJ yet.

15 Jun 2020 19:41:32
Your right mate, make as much money as possible and to do that is to fight Joshua not Whyte.

15 Jun 2020 19:47:38
This is how the current problem is solved mate imo. Povetkin beats Whyte whenever they fight and that leaves the door open for Fury vs AJ after Wilder and Pulev. While Hearn gets another Whyte vs Povetkin rematch on ppv and winner fights winner of Fury vs AJ.

09 Jun 2020 20:43:16
Boxing back tonite stevenson vs carballo.

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06 Jun 2020 20:41:40
David haye vs holyfield at cruiserweight. I'm going haye to knock him. Only 2 fighters to be cruiserweight and heavyweight world champions.

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06 Jun 2020 20:44:28
Haye points sorry.

07 Jun 2020 18:20:10
Holyfield eats Haye alive. If the man can take punches from Lewis, Tyson and Bowe, he can take punches from Haye.

Haye was a hard hitter, but he never had a gas tank and was prone to injury from his late 20s onwards.

I'm not trying to say Haye is useless because he's not, but there are levels and you can teach what Holyfield had.

07 Jun 2020 22:23:56
Yeah think the beer was talking last night. Agree Holyfield would have won, would have been a good scrap though.

08 Jun 2020 11:54:27
Personally I think Haye was just as good a boxer and was the bigger punchers of the two, although Holyfield had so much energy, heart and his chin was made of steel. Early I think Holyfield wouldn't have mixed it with Haye, abit like what he done against George Foreman. As Haye got tired, I agree Holyfield would be too strong downt the stretch and that he would must prob stop Haye around 10.

04 Jun 2020 17:09:33
Hearn is pushing for Fury vs Whyte to go ahead.

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05 Jun 2020 11:34:02
Whyte is going to be busy with all these fights he's got lined up lol. Hearn blowing smoke he knows this won't happen and he wasnt even pushing for it until he heard that there was no chance of Fury vs AJ. don't know where they r going to hold this fight because no fans in uk and whyte is a nobody in the states. Better off fighting Ortiz or Breazeale in America far bigger name. Hearn talking rubbish imo mate.

05 Jun 2020 14:21:33
Whyte isn't a nobody in america, he's fought there before and he's been chasing Wilder for years.

The americans know who whyte is, just look at any recent video about Wilder from american youtubers. Whytes name keeps popping up and most of them say Wilder ducked him.

I think you are being a bit cynical with Hearn. Yeah he's a bellend but name a promoter in boxing who puts on a better show, or stacks undercards like be does.

Naturally he going to try for Fury vs Joshua, it's the biggest fight in boxing for the undisputed he title. If he didn't try to push that fight first I'd be worried for boxing.

05 Jun 2020 18:48:11
Wilder is back from injury and able to start training in July mate so that means he will be ready for the 3rd fight when it happens end of the year. So Hearn can say he's pushing for the Fury bs Whyte fight but he knows it's not going to happen.
American fight fans will know whyte but the public or causal fans over there won't a clue who he is. Fair play to Whyte though because at least he's willing to fight without fans.

 


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