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10 Oct 2021 20:26:07
wow that was a brilliant fight last night. I also thought respect to wilder or hanging in there and showing some heart the way he did towards the end but then the respect for him went right out the window post fight when he didn't even acknowledge fury after the fight.

at the end of the day the best man won and he should have acknowledged that.

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11 Oct 2021 00:00:55
Hopefully he retires.

 

 

10 Oct 2021 06:41:56
That was a brutal finish. Got what you wanted Deontay, what excuses you have for us now? Did Malik Scott spike your water, or maybe Fury slept with your wife?

Idiot.

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10 Oct 2021 13:29:06
Hats off to both men was an excellent fight. Fury was brilliant on the inside but it was his left jab that won that for him and his guts. a lot of men wouldn't have got through that 4th round, Fury's fittness and recovery powers are outstanding. Hope he fights Whyte next.

Think Wilder will retire now. I hope not as I still want to see him fight Aj and Whyte but think his ego won't let him stick around.

The heavyweight division is back.

10 Oct 2021 16:25:08
Fury seems to defy logic, he looks out of shape and overweight, and his legs are skinny for a man his size.
But his fitness is good, his size seems to help him soak up the punishment, and he is a very good boxer.
He’s got to be the most unathletic looking world champion outside of darts lol.

05 Oct 2021 01:15:30
guys predictions for the fury/ wilder fight?
i think fury will start fast again like last time
and even get rid of wilder quicker to.


but if somehow wilder wins, (hopefully not) then we will have fury/ wilder 4 to look forward to sometime next year lol.

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05 Oct 2021 18:06:49
was also saying to friends that I wonder what the excuses from wilder will be this time if fury does another job on him?
seriously though I think if its the same as the last fight, ( which I think it will be and be over quicker) then wilder needs to call it a day.
i said he should have called it a day after the load of bs excuses he came out with.

i do also hope that whyte get's a shot at the wbc belt after this to.

06 Oct 2021 13:29:38
Think if we look at the 2 fights already, Fury has used two styles. Box and move and aggression front foot pressure. We seen that Wilder had some success against the boxer style but was clueless when backed up and pressured. I agree with you that Fury will start on the front foot but it will be controlled aggression coming in behind his long jab. I'll go for a Fury win on points possibly later stoppage.

All depends on how wilder performs on how he goes forward. They could have taught him some new tricks on how to set the right hand up and worked on his stamina but I don't think he can come with anything Fury hasn't seen or dealt with b4.

I wouldn't mind seeing Wilder v Aj still. Or Whyte.

26 Sep 2021 11:52:30
wow what a performance by usyk last night, that was a proper boxing performance all through the fight I only had aj winning 3 or 4 rounds at best.
and I think if there was another minute or so left in the 12th when usyk really stuck it on him he may have finished him.
and I was wrong on the fight outcome to I said to friends before the fight I reckon aj will stop usyk late.
i think the problem with aj is that he can't handle it and doesn't know what to do when someone is really putting it on him as we saw when he first fought ruiz.
and imo I don't see aj winning a rematch with usyk.

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26 Sep 2021 15:20:45
Said for a long time, Usyk will beat AJ. When I saw the result I watched the fight.

AJ can win the rematch but he needs to actually fight him, rather than try to out skill a guy who's skill ceiling is much higher than his. It's like me trying to run faster than an F1 car can drive.

He needs to do what Chisora did in the opening round against Usyk, but pin him into a corner and just let your hands go.

Also, Joshua just can't take punches. He's getting hurt badly by someone who in comparison to him is feather fisted.

Also you have to question his desire now. He's made 4 attempts to make the undisputed fight, 3 against Wilder and 1 against Fury, none of them happened and now he's lost his belts again. Is he going to have the motivation to do it again? Especially against a guy that completely outclassed him.

26 Sep 2021 16:14:56
your right he just can't take punches that's why I said he has no idea what to do and can't handle it when its being put on him.
also yes he does need to actually fight him in the rematch because there is no way on earth he will outbox usyk.



the thing I've been thinking now is if say joshua loses the rematch is it game over for aj? because will he have the desire to take possibly 2 or 3 more fights to get back in contention for the belts?
surely if he loses again he's way down the pecking order for title fights again?

26 Sep 2021 18:13:54
To be honest with you this is one of bigger reasons I just stopped watching and caring about Boxing.

There were 4 chances to make undisputed, all 4 times AJ was the one pushing for it and all 4 times he had it ripped away from him. I really feel for the guy because he's the only one that ever truly wanted it. Wilder is just an absolute joke and the stunt that Fury and his team pulled is just unforgivable.

27 Sep 2021 09:50:03
Yes he needs to let his hands go and use his strength and weight to his advantage. Crazy trying to outbox Usyk, its like since the Ruiz fight Aj has become very cautious, trying to box people, which for a gold medallist he was never very good at in the first place.

The belts have become a burden last while. I want to see the best fight the best whether there is a belt on the line or not. Going to be hard for Aj to get Fury fight now especially with no belt but him Wilder could be easier to make, depending that Fury beats him next month.

30 Sep 2021 01:40:53
AJ really should look at changing his trainer. Someone like Freddy Roach would bring a lot more out of him.

Joshua is a good Boxer, he has a decent jab a very good right hand, good punch variation and very good at combination punching. However what he does is little more than basic, it's not creative or unpredictable. Don't get me wrong, he does the basics very well it's just if you want to be 'great' you need to be able to do more than just the basics.

01 Oct 2021 18:13:41
What about the scoring from Harold Foster? 115-113, so if Joshua won the last he was scoring the fight a draw. He give Aj the first round and 5 rounds the whole fight, imo he won 1 maybe 2 at max.

The Campbell Hatton decision earlier in the night was a robbery.

Also, I watched the fight on Sky and Callum Smith floored Castillo and his leg started twitching they didn't show the replay and the commentators were very respectful, unlike DAZN commentary team and Todd Grimshaw in particular who I read screamed "his (Castillo's) body is no longer working! " Very disrespectful.

02 Oct 2021 03:33:24
Another one of the big reasons I've fallen out with Boxing. At least he still scored it a win for Usyk I guess but yes, atrocious score card.

I didn't watch any of the other fights, seen a lot of people saying Hatton was gifted a win though and it doesn't surprise me.

To be fair to Sky they have been respectful in that sense in recent years, I remember when Whyte sent Lucas Browne into another dimension, they didn't replay it and kept repeating that they're hoping he's alright.
I will be honest, I thought Lucas Browne was dead. When people get knocked out they usually start breathing deep and heavily which Lucas Browne wasn't. So in that sense I am thankful that they didn't replay it etc.

DAZN have the potential to take over the whole sport, but they have such awful, awful presentation. The commentators are totally useless, the set is ugly, the analysis is a joke and the only saving grace is that the cost per month is so cheap.

 

 

25 Sep 2021 23:23:34
Wow, that was amazing. What I fighter I take my hat off. Brilliant boxing. That was proper boxing. What a performance.

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25 Sep 2021 21:55:34
Time to rock. Best of luck lads. I have the mega fight feel about ne now, c'mon that's see a cracker. Aj points my bet but cheating on Usyk.

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23 Sep 2021 11:59:43
Any predictions for the Aj Vs Usyk fight at the weekend?
I think Usyk will feel the power of Aj early and become very negative and happy to survive just. Going for Joshua points win.

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19 Sep 2021 15:31:06
I have completely lost interest in Boxing and haven't watched, or kept up with any news it since the fraudulent disgrace that was Joshua vs Fury, which of course didn't happen.

However I have seen that Manny Pacquiao is going to run for President of the Philippines.

I hope he wins, as the current president Rodrigo Duterte is a disgusting individual.

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21 Sep 2021 11:17:23
Tbh I don't blame u mate. The sport is getting ridiculous now from seeing a 58 year old Holyfield getting in the ring to boxers still be allowed to fight 4 days later after failing a drugs test.

Yes, seems Pacquiao is finally walking away now I'm glad because in his last fight against Ugas he looked a shadow of his former self. His legs have gone and like all the greats before him he got old. Fair play Pacquiao get career and class fighter.

I tell u what's wrong with boxing atm. No1 out there (minus Canelo) is any good and 100% confident about there abilities so they r happy to hide behind their promoters and TV networks. Actually reading a book atm about boxing during the 50s era and fans back then were having the same thoughts on the sport when TV was introduced and stared to kill off the small hall shows.

12 Aug 2021 10:50:57
Anyone seen that new Tyson documentary called knockout? Never knew Robin Givens wasn't supposed to be in that interview with him on the couch, she just jumped in and started putting Tyson down. Real piece of work that one. Her and her ma.

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07 Aug 2021 04:11:34
Hi Ed01. From some of the things I've read from you I'm guessing we are close to each other in age. Do you remember when there was a lot of British boxing on terrestrial telly in the 90s? If so what did you make of the Eubank vs Benn rivalry? From what I remember Benn was a huge puncher and the scarier of the two but Eubank was cocky and a head worker plus also quite skilful without having the power of Benn.

{Ed001's Note - so you are 21 and a little bit too? Good age to be! I have to say, looking back on it, that was a golden age for boxing in the UK as it was huge. Then Sky bought most of it and so barely anyone saw it. They would have been better taking less money short term for the sake of the sport, but it is understandable that they wanted to earn as much as possible in such a short career.

Benn was a monster of a puncher and just loved to brawl. I saw him in a few kick boxing bouts as well, before the BBBC made him stop kick boxing or they would have stripped him of his license. He was capable of becoming a world champion in both sports but there was little money in kick boxing compared to boxing then, so he had little real choice. When he first turned pro, he was just smashing people aside like they were not there, which is why he was able to get a lot of fights in. He would often fight every weekend. I can remember one fight, I think it was when he went for the Commonwealth title, and he fought a Canadian guy and the commentator is talking up how the Canadian had never even been knocked down before and so Benn would have to show something different from the usual. He was still talking about that when the fight started and Benn hit the guy once and took his head off with one punch. Steve Collins says Benn was the hardest puncher he ever faced. He had great heart too.

Eubank was incredibly skilled, with a chin made of granite, the only times he ever really got hurt were due to body shots. Sadly though, he was also a total knob, who made it all so personal by insulting everyone and everything involved in boxing and assuming this air of superiority. It has tainted people's memories of him as he was so hated. He was also very well 'managed' to ensure he got as many easy fights as possible. It was so annoying watching him fight, it is difficult to look back at him fondly, unlike some others who were knobs but at least you could respect him. Eubank humiliated people and his strutting around when he had someone hurt, rather than finishing them off, was horrible to see. It is dangerous to keep hurting someone and then letting them recover, only to then hurt them badly again. And most of those he was doing it to were patsies who were not earning enough they could then walk away from the game. But he even trained that way, he would spar like he fought, strutting around for long periods. It is a shame, because he was clearly so talented, he could have achieved so much more.}

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07 Aug 2021 05:57:38
Brill mate I didn't realise Eubank was nasty. I just took him as a pantomime villain who could back it up. Steve Collins. I forgot about him. Didn't he get wins against both of them? It was a great time, I remember seeing a young Prince personm on normal telly to and even a very late at night Holyfield vs Bowe with the parachute man. But as you say when the big money comes calling who wouldn't take everything they can get for being punched in the face.

{Ed001's Note - Eubank was hated by all, sadly he has still never made things up with a lot of people in the sport. He was extremely disrespectful to a lot of people who deserved better.

Collins beat both, yes. Excellent fighter, who wasted most of his peak chasing a fight with Roy Jones Jr and ducking Joe Calzaghe.

Naseem Hamed? He was an odd fish that lad, dumping a bin liner full of cash on his mother's living room floor, rather than just putting the money in her bank account like most normal people would. Very talented but just lost his hunger once he had enough money, his training levels dipped massively and he would skip it occasionally so he was never going to have a long career. He had the money, that was enough for him.

I had forgotten about the parachute man! Some good times then with a huge audience for boxing as everyone could watch it for free.}

07 Aug 2021 06:21:46
It was brilliant. Saturday nights ma either gets sent the pub by da or goes to her mates while the men and boys have the telly and let us kids have a can.

{Ed001's Note - it was a bit different in our house, me ma was the one into sport.}

07 Aug 2021 06:35:29
Also ed. The tragic bout that Benn had with Gerald Mcklennan, Benn was obviously blameless for what happened and I understand if you don't want to give an opinion but in the first few minutes of the first round Gerald had him really hurt and could've finished it but the press and his promoter (you know who) had bigged him up so to me it looked like Gerald backed off just to make a spectacle. I may be wrong but it is like your opinion of Eubanks easy wins, if you get in the ring with someone they must be treated with respect and fear. Otherwise something bad can happen to yourself.

{Ed001's Note - I don't think he backed off because of that, I think it is because he got hurt. Benn was always most dangerous when in trouble. He is like a wounded animal and I think McLennan just got tagged and realised he wasn't going to put Benn away that easily. In fact it was very possible he could have ended up winding himself and getting knocked out himself. Chasing a KO is a very dangerous thing to do against a big puncher particularly. But in any fight, you have to be careful as you are expending huge amounts of energy which can leave you in a lot of trouble later. It is a risk/reward thing and I think McLennan just didn't think the risk was worth it. If he had watched any of Benn's fights before stepping in the ring with him, which you would expect he had done, he would have known that Benn just fought harder the more hurt he is.}

07 Aug 2021 07:01:01
Cheers Ed. Sorry I work nights and work at home so once the vulture and the chicks fall asleep I have nobody to pester. Nice getting your knowledge man.

{Ed001's Note - no need to say sorry, always nice to have a chat mate. Nothing worse than being stuck on your own working at home these days. The last year or so with the lockdown has been a bloody nightmare. I have taken to going to the shops for bits and pieces every day, just to make sure I see another human being. Only problem is the flat is beginning to disappear under empty plazzy bags now, but you can hardly go in the shop and not buy at least some milk or something can you?}

07 Aug 2021 07:10:11
Oi just make sure you use them bags or recycle them!

{Ed001's Note - that's why they are clogging up the place as I always re-use them. It is only that I always forget to pick some up that I don't take them with me to re-use rather than getting more.}

09 Aug 2021 22:19:22
Being a child in the 90s the prince Nas fights were epic. The ring walks would have me bouncing around what an entertainer! As for Benn, what a fighter but my mate says he never fought the same after giving that guy brain damage. Either consciously or subconsciously he never fought like he did before that.

10 Aug 2021 13:16:30
It not only affected Benn but also had a damaging psychological affect on Naz. Brendan Ingle was in Gerald McClellans corner that night and mentioned after how it affected him. It also affected how TV and ultimately ITV viewed boxing. They were a lot more subdued after that.

Was a great come back from Benn, he was very close to be being stopped in the first and a lot of refs would have stopped it, but he showed great heart to fight back. From about round 4 onwards u can tell there is something not right with McClellan, he was struggling to keep his mouth piece in his mouth and the blinking started. Someone said it looked like he was trying to pop an invisible balloon of pressure building up deep in his eyes. The man was clearly in trouble and imo the way Jim Watt and Frank Bruno got on was a disgrace. Man is fighting for his life and Jim Watt is shouting about how he quit.
McClellan sister Lisa told the FBI how Gerald had been complaining about not feeling right from the 2nd round and wanted to stop from from 6th round but was forced to continue by his trainer Stan Johnson.

Benn was a tough cookie, there are plenty of stories about him having dustups on the streets of Belfast when he was a paratrooper during the troubles, with the local hard men. Having a style like his meant he would ultimately slow down and fade, became abit of a punch bag later.

On the Fan man, he had a strange ending. He was found dead I'm Brazil or somewhere in South America afew years after the Bowe Holyfield fight. At that fight he crashed into Bowes corner where his team were seated and they give him one hell of a beating. Lol.

 


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