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12 Nov 2020 21:44:52
Terrance Crawford vs Kell Brook this weekend. Do we give Kell any chance?

I'm thinking a late stoppage from Crawford, probably with a bodyshot. Although I wouldn't be surprised if Kell retired on his stool from yet another broken orbital bone.

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13 Nov 2020 13:15:54
Yes, a slim one 'very slim' but he has a chance. Going in his favour is his size as he's naturally the bigger man who will probably be the bigger puncher of the two also. he's a good boxer Brook with bags of experience and tones of heart, he's not afraid to dig deep when things get tough, although this has probably finished him as standing toe 2 toe with GGG was not the smartest thing to be doing.
I don't think the switch hitting of Crawford will cause Brook any problems that he hasn't dealt with before in the Ingle Gym, sparring the likes of Galahad and Rhodes. Also believe the lack of a crowd could be an issue for Crawford who seems to love to play up to his home town fans.
Although at 34 years old Brook is an old 34 year old. The GGG fight took to much out of him and his weight issues demonstrated themselves against Spence who finished what GGG had started. Add to that the battles with the likes of Jones and Porter and it would lead u to believe Brook just has too many miles on the clock. Especially against arguably the best boxer in the world atm.
I think Brook will start well I think Crawford will want to send a message so will exchange with Brook early but will ultimately box using his 5 inch reach advantage. Think the fight will be fairly close until Brook fades around the mid way point and Crawford will go looking the stoppage which he will get probably around round 9.

15 Nov 2020 13:37:55
Splatted in the 4th round. Kell should retire, he has no durability left.

19 Nov 2020 11:31:14
I give Brook way too much credit. he's psychology done, that shot hit him on the eye and it frightened him. That's the end of him now. Please don't start mentioning Kahn, I don't even want to watch that now certainly wouldn't pay for it.

 

 

12 Nov 2020 19:59:44
Court case with Frampton and Mcguigan was settled today. Once the emails came out Barry had no hope, he settled. Never heard full amount but its millions. Expect bankruptcy. Sad its ended like this.

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12 Nov 2020 23:31:36
It's about time that Boxers started protecting themselves like this. History is littered with Boxers getting ripped off and left with nothing.

A more recent example is Shannon Briggs getting paid 1% of what he should have been paid for fighting Vitali Klitschko. Briggs spent several days in Hospital after taking a 12 round beating.

10 Nov 2020 20:55:42
Campbell vs Garcia off. Campbell tested positive for C.V.

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11 Nov 2020 12:17:16
According to Hearn its just been postponed. Hopefully we'll see it at the start of next year.

10 Nov 2020 13:41:11
Katie Taylors title defence will be streamed for free on youtube and facebook this weekend. The schedule includes:

Katie Taylor v Miriam Gutierrez Undisputed World Lightweight Title

Terri Harper v Katharina Thanderz:
WBC Super-Featherweight Title

Rachel Ball v Jorgelina Guanini:
WBA Bantamweight Title

John Docherty v Jack Cullen:
10 Rounds at Super-Middleweight

Kash Farooq v Angel Aviles:
10 Rounds at Bantamweight.

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10 Nov 2020 13:35:51
Debunking the myth of Luis Ortiz.

Let's start this off by looking at Luis Ortiz' amateur record.
According to Peoplepill and many other sources, he holds an amateur record of 343-19. Peoplepill go on to list his accolades too, including 5 Cuban national championship medals (2002 - Silver medal 95 kg, 2003 - Bronze medal 91+ kg, 2005 - Silver medal 91 kg, 2006 - Gold medal 91 kg, 2008 - White Ribbon 91+ kg) As well as his international results (2005 - Panamerican Championships, Brazil - Gold medal 91 kg, 2005 - World Cup (Team Competition), Russia - Silver medal 91 kg, 2005 - World Championships, China - Quarter-finalist) .

I did some digging and found that only BoxRec has any real record of his amateur fights and they list him as 11-4, which is his Cuban national championship fights from 2004-2008.
Further digging found a few articles about him losing 5 times to Odlanier Solís and a few forum posts discussing him losing to Felix Savon and beating Mike Perez. Aside from that, I've found nothing on his actual fights.

The biggest omission from his amateur record is any participation in the Olympics, I found a few forum posts discussing this, with one person claiming he never made it past the trial stages. Which is understandable, considering Felix Savon ruled 91 kg (Heavyweight) division between 1992 and 2000, but he could have competed in the 91+ kg division (Super Heavyweight) . Cuba have only medalled twice in that division, with Roberto Balado taking gold in 1992 and Michel López Núñez getting a Bronze in 2004.
He had ample opprtunity to compete in the Olympics, as Cuba didn't even send a competitor for 2 Olympics during his amateur years.

I suspect that his amateur career is either greatly exaggerated, or most of his amateur fights were back room bar fights.

Onto his professional record and his status as the divisions "Bogeyman". A status which I believe is unjustified as he's not someone who instills fear into his competition. He is a very good technical boxer, but he's not this knockout monster that people claim he is.

For a start, he's never fought anyone in the professional ranks. His best win came against Bryant Jennings which is a good win in all honesty, but when its your only good win, what does that say? He's also not an overly dangerous puncher, most of his stoppages have been from accumilation of punches rather than knocking people out, plus the level of opponent is not good.

The definition of Boegeyman is someone who instills fear into their competition, and Ortiz does not do that in my opinion.

Onto Ortiz' age, which has been questioned by so many people. During my research for Ortiz amateur record, I came across a forum thread from 2017 which just about summed it up. Each reply was progressively making out he was older. It started off that he was Muhammed Ali and Sonny Listons sparring partner, and ended up with him coming second in the Bethlehem Golden Gloves to Jesus and having an autographed Bible. So it's widely considered Ortiz is older than he is.
But is there any evidence for this? Not really, it's mainly stemmed from the history of Cuban athletes in Baseball saying they were younger, because it would get them a more lucrative contract. But there was also the failed PED test blamed on blood pressure medication and then in 2018 there was a statement from UFC Fighter Yoel Romero, saying he knew Ortiz from the Cuban national academy and in his words he's "40 or 41" (his official age at the time was 38/ 39).

If I was to guess, I would probably say his age is legitimate, there isn't strong enough evidence to suggest otherwise.

So inconclusion, I think Luis Ortiz AM record is exaggerated, I believe his professional record is padded and he is not the divisions Bogeyman and I don't believe that he's lying about his age.

Any thoughts?

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10 Nov 2020 17:24:48
Damn it I deleted part of it by mistake.

I was meant to also say that his hopes of going to the Olympics at 91 kg would have been ended up Odlanier Solis in 2004 and went on to take gold and then in the pros got knocked out in the first round by Vitali Klitschko and beaten twice by an old Tony Thompson.
In 2008 the 91 kg contender was Osmay Acosta who went on to win gold.
In 2008 Luis Ortiz was beaten by Robert Alphonso who went on to compete in the Super Heavyweight Olympics and lost in the first round to the man that Charles Martin fought for the IBF world title, Vyacheslav Glazkov (if you remember his leg fell off in that fight) .

So this explains why he never made it to the Olympics.

10 Nov 2020 21:43:26
He wouldn't be the first boxer to have a padded record. See it all the time with Eastern European boxers who come over with a half decent record but when inspected it turns out they have been fighting milk men in the local community hall.
Ortiz for me was a hype job. Came on the science no1 heard of him and Matchroom done a great job promoting him. So much so that we looked past an average fight with Dave Allen and didn't really criticize him at all.
I have never really been impressed with Ortiz except for afew rounds against Wilder, who is not the hardest person to look good against in a boxing match. His record might suggest he's a big puncher but I don't think he is.
I think the issue with Ortiz and could throw afew Cuban fighters into this category who have turned pro, they seem to just want to make the money. When it gets tough they don't want it. Maybe it's the amount of gruelling amateur contests they have had b4 but in the paid ranks I've seen a fair amount of them quit or stroll when it get tough. Then u throw in the whole double failed drugs test and it all points to hype job trying to make as much doe as quickly as he can.

10 Nov 2020 21:46:29
Forgot to say mate good research for your post. Well written.

11 Nov 2020 00:52:53
Thanks bud.

I don't think it's the money, at least not solely that. I think it has more to do with their fundementals. They always get knocked out in the pro HW division for some reason, perhaps they don't train to protect against power punching, or perhaps Cubans are just genetically not as durable as other places? It really is confusing, when you consider the accolades the get in the amateurs and even in the pro ranks down the weights.
The greatest amateur HW of all time is widely considered to be Felix Savon, his nephew Erislandy Savon is going to be rated just as highly when he retires too, both Cuban.

I would just like to say, I wasn't trying to bash Ortiz with this post, and probably should have made that clear. He is a very good boxer and is a dangerous fight for any of the top level guys, I just don't think he's as good as many think he is.

09 Nov 2020 15:32:03
Read an article there saying that not one single boxer was drug tested from the start of April to the end of June this year. Described as a free for all.

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11 Nov 2020 00:58:03
I'm not sure how well PED's would work when they can't train to a full intensity.
I can't speak for the rest of the world, but in England all the gyms were shut from April to June, so the benefits of the steroids would be minimal. However, there are some which would still be effective, such as cario enhancers like EPO. So if Joshua comes out throwing 100 punches a round against Pulev. Lol.

07 Nov 2020 21:13:30

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08 Nov 2020 02:06:11
Hancho does great videos. I think Motivedia did one on this fight recently too.

06 Nov 2020 17:57:03
Canelo and Golden boy part ways.

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06 Nov 2020 23:06:55
Will be interesting where he ends up, or if he goes on with his own promotional company.

I wonder how much longer Golden Boy will last? There are rumours that Ryan Garcia doesn't see eye to eye with Oscar. And what happens if Luke Campbell beats Garcia?

07 Nov 2020 12:33:40
Apparently his fighting Dec 19th against Caleb Plant on Showtime. He could go down the Mayweather route: ppv events without a long term commitment to a single promoter.
If Ryan Garcia gets beat by Campbell that leaves GBP pinning all their hopes on Vergil Ortiz Jr, who is a big puncher at welterweight. Other than them GBP have 3 world championships at other weights although they r not big names.

03 Nov 2020 19:42:42
Dillian Whyte vs Alexander Povetkin is postponed after Povetkin tested positive for C.V.

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08 Nov 2020 12:45:00
Rescheduled for January 30th. Think it will benefit both fighters. November 21st was too quick of a turnaround imo.

02 Nov 2020 17:09:08
So Deontay Wilder has finally broken silence.

In doing so, he has accused Mark Breland of being 'disloyal' and also insinuated that Mark poisoned his water with a muscle relaxant.
He has also accused Tyson Fury of being a thief and a cheater, saying that he had an egg-weight in his glove and he was also positioning his fist in the wrist of his glove.
Because of this accusation against Fury, he is implicating Jay Deas (who witnessed Fury's hand wraps and gloves going on. He is also indirectly implicating the WBC and the Nevada Athletic commission, as they were also present in both dressing rooms at the time.

Now at this point I would normally lambast Wilder and laugh at his expense. But on this occasion I am genuinely concerned for his mental health and wellbeing. Someone needs to help him.

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03 Nov 2020 02:13:48
coudln't agree more hsf.
when I saw some of the stuff he came out with I thought to myself is this guy all there?
he seriously needs help.

03 Nov 2020 16:11:06
Agreed it's the ramblings of a mad man.

04 Nov 2020 11:45:01
It's interesting that he mentions about Joshua offering more money. He's more or less admitted to ducking Joshua.

05 Nov 2020 00:36:09
that's strange though hsf because I am sure I saw frank warren say in an interview before that joashua ducked wilder, also that he saw the contract offer that wilders team sent to joshuas.
the interview was around the time just before wilder/ fury 2.

05 Nov 2020 13:15:30
Here is all the information regarding the Joshua vs Wilder saga.

The first offer came from the Joshua camp in 2016 - it was an offer to spar before Joshua's first title defense. Naturally rejected as both were champions, Wilder even said 'champs don't spar champs'.

The first offer to actually fight also came from Matchroom after the Carlos Takam fight (originally meant to be Pulev) . This was a low ball offer and was rightly rejected. From what I remember, it was roughly an 80/ 20 split in favour of Joshua.

The second offer came after the Povetkin fight, which was a guaranteed $10 million plus 30% of the American PPV.
This would have been Wilders biggest pay day by a minimum of $8 million. Wilder rejected it.

The 3rd and final offer came a few days later from Matchroom again, with a guaranteed $15 million and 50% of the American PPV. This would have been Wilders biggest payday - even eclipsing what he made vs Fury. Wilder rejected it and went on to fight Ortiz for a second time for $2.4 million.

The $50 million offer which came from Wilders camp was bogus and a publicity stunt and here is why.
Eddie Hearn asked to see the money in an escrow account, they refused.
Eddie Hearn asked for a contract, they refused to send one and asked for a 'public acceptance' of the offer, with no guarantee of funds, venue, dates, PPV percentage or a network to air the fight.

Additionally, there are very strong rumours that the money was real, but it was coming from BT Sport. This would cause massive contract issues with Joshua who is obviously with Sky.

To sum it up, Wilder has basically used Joshua's name to build his own profile. While at the same time completely avoiding a fight with him.

 


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