24 Nov 2019 09:39:53
Got to feel sorry for ortiz. Was comprehensively out boxing wilder and then bang good night. Wow wilder carries some power, a game changer. Donâ€™t think I can remember seeing a boxer like wilder. Technically awful but with an equalizer of a right hand thatâ€™s good enough to carry him at the top. Heâ€™s right, opponents have to be perfect for 12 rounds, he just needs a second.

1.) 25 Nov 2019
25 Nov 2019 14:21:20
I felt bad for ortiz too but I think it was inevitable, we saw in the first fight that Ortiz didnâ€™t have it in him to finish Wilder and he was always going to get caught with something big when he started to tire. That right hand is clearly very dangerous but I think the being perfect for 12 rounds thing is an exaggeration. If AJ had a perfect first few rounds then heâ€™s definitely got the power to finish it early. The danger with someone like Fury is he doesnâ€™t have the power to finish Wilder so heâ€™s got to go the full 12 without getting hit with a huge right hand. AJ Wilder is the fight I think everyone would love to see, itâ€™s bascially a case of whoever lands big first wins.

2.) 25 Nov 2019
25 Nov 2019 19:04:23
Imo most exciting boxer on the planet atm, that power is something else. Who beats him? Or how to beat him? Difficult questions but it reminds me of Andre Ward vs Kovalev the first fight. I remember thinking how is ward going to win this when he can't hurt Kovalev and Kovalev can take his head off with any shot? So ward came up with a game plan to attack the body and avoid Kovalev's heavy shots. Not saying everyone has the boxing ability of Andre Ward but it just shows that it can be done. Need to avoid Wilders heavy shots, plant your head on his chest and attack that body. Possibly someone like Ruiz could trouble Wilder with this tactics but in reality I think wilder flattens the lot of them.

3.) 25 Nov 2019
25 Nov 2019 19:37:55
But a half fit fury boxed the head off him for 11 rounds, so a fully fit fury could make him look foolish. I'd want to test the body but if I was fury.

4.) 25 Nov 2019
25 Nov 2019 20:19:50
People say that his opponents need to be perfect for 12 rounds. well he can be knocked out too you know? And if Eric Molina can hurt Wilder, and David Haye can make him do the Stanky leg in sparring, and Klitschko can ko him twice in sparring, then he can be beaten.

For the whole fight vs ortiz he did nothing, got completely out boxed for 6 rounds, then flattened him.
He paws with his jab, which is stupid, he over swings all the time and is open to left hooks like you wouldn't believe.
Someone like Parker, Povetkin or even Miller, would give Wilder nightmares.

5.) 25 Nov 2019
25 Nov 2019 21:23:56
U know mate I have been sitting thinking a boxer always beats a puncher and wilder is a nothing else but a puncher. Sort of shows u how bad the heavyweights r still in terms of quality, but don't underestimate that puncher cause he has something the rest want. His chin has stood the test so far, I'd test that body.

6.) 25 Nov 2019
25 Nov 2019 22:15:03
I don't know Roro, he got proper rocked by Molina, who is a powder puff puncher. He was wobbled in the 20 seconds he fought Breazeale (literally just before the KO), was out on his feet against Ortiz in the first fight, and every time Fury landed a straight right his legs buckled.
I just don't think he's been fighting good enough opponents in general. When you look at the quality on AJ's or Whyte's CV and compare it to Wilder, it's clear to see.

When Wilder comes up against a decent boxer, in his prime who can punch - he'll get beaten comprehensively in my opinion. As all his fights at title level have been cherry picks.

7.) 26 Nov 2019
25 Nov 2019 23:17:15
Name me one of the top 3 who r not cherry picking atm mate, wilder is the one I'd say is doing it the least. Ruiz was a cherry pick for AJ ( so he, and most people including myself thought), fury his last 2 have been a joke. Imo he beats AJ, fury I don't know. I can see fury out boxing him cause u r correct hsf mate wilder can't box but atm he doesn't have to, his confidence will be sky high and that's massive when going into a matchup mate.

8.) 26 Nov 2019
26 Nov 2019 16:29:24
Wilder reminds me of a modern day Jack Johnson. Watch his ko of Stanley Ketchel.

9.) 26 Nov 2019
26 Nov 2019 19:45:10
Ruiz was hardly a cherry pick. He was a late replacement for Jarrell "big pharmacy" Miller. They tried to get Ortiz and his team said no. They tried to get Whyte who also said no. Michael Hunter and Usyk were also considered. Ruiz was a last ditch attempt at salvaging the event.

Plus look at AJs cv. Whyte, Parker, Povetkin, Klitschko, Ruiz.
All of them are considered to be world level at the time of fighting, except for Whyte and Ruiz - both of which have proved their credentials.

Fury has a padded record for sure.

Wilders is totally padded. He rematches people he's already conclusively beaten, has fought two mandatories in 10 title defenses and none of his title fights, aside from his last 3 have been against top 15 ranked opponents (at the time of fighting) .

There is a reason that there was nearly 1000 points difference on boxrec's rankings before the wilder vs fury fight.

10.) 26 Nov 2019
26 Nov 2019 20:40:51
Lol 'big pharmacy' lol love it. I do agree mate out of the 3 Ajs record stands up best. That doesn't mean they looked at Ruiz as threat, they looked at him as a small wee cake lover who is waiting to get knocked out and choose him to use the Mexican angle. Had to fill seats in sort notice who better than a Mexican, never been a heavyweight Mexican world champ. Smart move.

11.) 26 Nov 2019
26 Nov 2019 21:56:34
Yeah but you look at a lot of the people not connected to the fight, saying that Ruiz was a harder fight than Miller. I'm not talking about youtube pundits either, people like Freddie Roach were saying that the general public are underestimating Ruiz and a Ruiz win wouldn't be an enormous surprise. So if people like Freddie Roach know how good he is, then surely someone like Eddie Hearn has some idea, especially with all the advisers and consultants he has helping him.

Yeah Big Pharmacy is a good one, I first heard it from BoxingSquard on Youtube.
He does good videos by the way, talks about a lot of the youngsters coming up, it's where I heard about Hrgovic for the first time. He also does unbias videos, even during the Joshua vs Parker fight (BS is from New Zealand) .

12.) 26 Nov 2019
26 Nov 2019 22:32:02
I think they all got sucked into the physical aspect of both men and seen Ruiz as the best ticket seller. Did they rush into it? Yes clearly, but the rematch should answer all r questions about the first fight.

Watched afew of his videos on YouTube myself mate, he's very good and knows his stuff. U recommended him to me about 4 years ago lol.