27 Jan 2024 08:38:33
Just for a bit of fun I decided to have a look and see what BoxRec had as the all time pound for pound list.

It's quite interesting to be honest, there are a lot of names that you would expect to be in the top 50 but there are also some that are mind boggling.as to why they are rated to highly.

I'm not going to denigrate any of the people in this list, they are all elite level fighters, but I don't understand some of them.

For example: Oscar De La Hoya comes in at number 17 which is baffling. He's rated above the likes of Canelo (22), Harry Greb (26), Joe Calzaghe (27), Willie Pep (30), Jake LaMotta (32), Archie Moore (37).

Some of those names listed should arguably be in the top 10, but they're not even in the top 20. I'd love to know what formula they use to determine the ratings.


1.) 30 Jan 2024
30 Jan 2024 22:15:19
They use a formula called the Whole-History Rating Algorithm, need to work for NASA to understand how it works.

The site was created by a guy called John Sheppard, I read a couple of funny things he's had to deal with over the years running the site;

An American boxer emailed BoxRec.com to say that he was disputing a bout he’d lost in Mexico. The fighter wrote that, at the weigh-in, he was four inches taller than his opponent. But when he entered the ring on fight night, the man he was facing was two inches taller than he was.

A Mexican commission submitted an event report to BoxRec that included a fight lost by “Jose Lopez.” There are more than a hundred “Jose Lopezes” in BoxRec’s database, so Sheppard asked for clarification as to which Jose Lopez it was. “We don’t know, ” the commission responded. “But he lost, it doesn’t matter, just pick one.”

A new commissioner submitted her first report to BoxRec and Sheppard noted that, in one of the bouts, both boxers were reported as winning. He telephoned the commissioner to clarify the result and she told him that a more experienced commissioner had spent a half-hour training her on fight night. One of the questions she’d asked was, “How do I know who won? ” The more experienced commissioner told her, “That’s easy. The referee will raise the winner’s hand.” He didn’t teach her about draws.


2.) 31 Jan 2024
31 Jan 2024 15:43:19
I believe that system is similar to the ELO rating system they use in Chess?

Oh man that's funny, Boxing is so broken.


3.) 01 Feb 2024
01 Feb 2024 19:34:31
I'm not sure about chess mate your probably right but.

Aye its the wild west of sports mate. Lol